Thread: Its All About Oldskool Weekly Email (6th February 2011)

Originally Posted by Thrash

Trance is still gay....

you gaddamn right!

Originally Posted by China-Rising

HCB is different, it's not oldskool but it has the same sound, but it's not oldskool hardcore. It has it's own identity and genre and it's own followers. But that's where it ends.

When I listened to a show Dodders did a few weeks back playing HCB, I really enjoyed it, but it didn't suddenly light a fire inside me and it didn't make me go out and start buying tracks from that genre. Puffa also played some of this stuff on his show last Friday. Again I enjoyed the show, the music was great, but once I logged off and went to bed, that was it. I didn't have any interest in suddenly becoming a fan and buying the music. I enjoyed it for what it was and that's where it ends.

You see it all the time though, you will get people who hear a track they like and suddenly they are the worlds biggest fan and expert on that genre. They jump on band wagons. I think we are all like that to a certain degree, although we don't like to admit we are. Yes it's great to become a fan of a genre and to discover music, but I think when it comes to HCB people are holding on to that last bit of their youth and labelling it as oldskool hardcore (i'm not saying everyone of course). I don't think that is fair to the genre or the people that make it because it's taking away it's own identity. It's not oldskool hardcore, it was never made back then and it will never be that music, but it seems people forget this. At the same time though some people are marketing this music as oldskool hardcore, which is the wrong thing to do IMO.

You made some interesting points China regarding HCB - i prefer to call it Nu-Rave as that's the genre and it has sub-genres which are hardcore breaks, rave breaks, jtek, dubstep and breaks. I don't like dubstep or breaks and i only like some jtek but the other two i really like.

For me, yes some of it resembles oldskool hardcore with the breakbeats and even using samples which were used in some oldskool tracks but hardcore breaks and rave breaks have their own distinct sound now which isn't oldskool and it sounds fresh, new and interesting.

I was always a fan of the oldskool breakbeats so when i discovered hardcore breaks/rave breaks back in 2006 i fell in love with the music - back then i was into listening to sets but now i am more into buying the tunes.

For me it's not about holding onto my youth at all - i hear a lot of hardcore breaks tunes and many tunes make me get goosebumps and make me feel good and it makes me want to listen to it more.

I have even seen people upload hcb tracks in the past on this forum thinking they were oldskool which made me chuckle a bit.

If other people are into nu-rave that's great but i am into the music because i like it not because everyone else is listening to it.

But i do agree with you China that people need to apprciate nu-rave is a genre in it's own right and it shouldn't be compared with oldskool

Jesus wept, and I thought I was the only one who fell out of love with oldskool

Like other comments before, I'm here for the people, don't really have a "Wants" list any longer and you all know what I think about you lot

As for my love (or lack of it at the moment) it's 2 things for me:

1. The novelty of collecting so many oldskool tracks has worn off after nearly 2 years

2. Think you lot will frind this interesting - I'm a (very highly qualified) engineer at heart and enjoy building and making stuff (i.e. my oldskool collection, not a metaphor), yet don't bow down and curtsey to the finished article.

So in my case, I love downloading, sorting and backing up the mp3s, but when it comes to playing them... pfffft. Weird really, the only digital thing I can compare that to is that I've got over 3000 games on an arcade simulator (M.A.M.E.), liked hunting for the games (as well as the latest emulator), downloading them, having a quick look at the front-end screen, making sure they played properly... but then as for playing the games themselves - No, I don't.
So that's how I work - kind of sad really

As for me stopping DJing on Renegade - it wasn't about falling out of love with the tunes - obvious we all do that - but it was a commitment thing that only Puffa & Curly know about

As for this site: although there is arguably the best oldskool downloadable section on t'interweb, it's obviously the members that are the gangoolies here, not the content

As our potty-mouthed Admin would say: "Onwards & Upwards"