Thread: Hardcore or Jungle?

definitely hardcore for me !

hardcore

Gotta love jungle.

Hardcore is great n all, but jungle is immense. Insane amens with a crazy deep a bassline topped off with some mental ragga, excellent stuff.

both, I love them both equally!

I like them both but i've voted for hardcore.

hardcore all the way

curly mate stay away from the jungle pal it's dark down there !!

i vote for Hardcore Junglism

No hung parliament going on in the hardcore vs jungle election....

Don't get me wrong I love my Jungle big time, but Jungle basically has its sound/formula whereas Hardcore is much more diverse and encorporates many different sounds, samples and beats. I'd say it also has more energy and you can do much more with a set of Hardcore due to that factor. Hardcore has it all! Jungle came from Hardcore.

I haveta say that it was jungle around about 1993 which caught my attention and still grips me the most. I first started collecting vinyl in early 1994 around about the time where the music was developing into pure jungle and I remember picking up 'Renegade Selector Vol. 1' on CD which was my absolute favourite compilation at the time and still holds fond memories to this day. Allthough I loved and still love the early Production House classics and the likes of Altern 8 (cheesey, but bangin' tunes), Tronik House and The Hypnotist, it was for the breakbeats and I felt that as the scene progressed into what was played in '93, the breakbeats really came to the fore.

I know a lot of complaints aimed at this era was because of the 'dark' sounds, but for me that really sparked my interest. I do aggree that there was a lot of rush jobs of tunes made once ragga jungle took off in '94, but there was also a load of absolute stone cold classics too covering various styles. Omni Trio's 'Soul Promenade', Ganja Crew's 'Tiger Style', Dead Dred's 'Dread Bass', Renegade's 'Terrorist' and Conquering Lion's Code Red ('94 Remix)' to name a few. I do believe that musical maturity doesn't necessarily have to mean that it becomes dull. Even though there was a dip into jazzy fluffiness and 'proper musicianship' for a bit, Moving Shadow did veer towards mediocrity in the mid to late '90's for a while in it's move to distance itself from the roughness of the ragga scene. But the true innovators kept the music simple but inventive.

So for me it's the 'bludclart jungle techno'!!!

hardcore all the way.scott brown,tom wilson,marc smith,bass generator.rezerection,fubar,metro,hanger 13.class

lol, I cant vote, cant possibly chosse between the two of them, one day it would be Hardcore the next Jungle, some sets from back in the day make that such a hard choice...lol, do i have to vote?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Originally Posted by (dj) Timeless

Don't get me wrong I love my Jungle big time, but Jungle basically has its sound/formula whereas Hardcore is much more diverse and encorporates many different sounds, samples and beats. I'd say it also has more energy and you can do much more with a set of Hardcore due to that factor. Hardcore has it all! Jungle came from Hardcore.

can't agree with that at all mate. One way of looking at is Jungle came from Hardcore, I look at it this way : Jungle/DnB is still Hardcore...we just grew up, learned how to use the technology available and the music changed because of it.

gonna have to go with the hardcore myself, but was a pretty close call with jungle as i like em both a lot, but for me its all about the 92-94 hardcore sound which was to me just amazing [music]

got to be hardcore, without hardcore there would be no jungle. Jungle was for mainly for moody people who thought they were gangsters. hardcore was for people to get off there tits to and have a good time

Originally Posted by onone70

gonna have to go with the hardcore myself, but was a pretty close call with jungle as i like em both a lot, but for me its all about the 92-94 hardcore sound which was to me just amazing [music]

i couldnt of put it any better myself

Originally Posted by mickeyfinn

Jungle was for mainly for moody people who thought they were gangsters. hardcore was for people to get off there tits to and have a good time

That's a sweeping generalisation you've made there, from 94 onwards I went with the jungle sound as I found Happy hardcore way too cheesey for my liking. Myself & all my friends got off our tits & had a good time listening / raving to jungle & we certainly didn't think we were gangsters!

Originally Posted by Rogue_D

Originally Posted by mickeyfinn

Jungle was for mainly for moody people who thought they were gangsters. hardcore was for people to get off there tits to and have a good time

That's a sweeping generalisation you've made there, from 94 onwards I went with the jungle sound as I found Happy hardcore way too cheesey for my liking. Myself & all my friends got off our tits & had a good time listening / raving to jungle & we certainly didn't think we were gangsters!

yeah sorry if people say hardcore to me and there talking oldskool then i mean 90 - to early 92 hardcore. I dont register happy hardcore in my brain. for me when people talk about oldskool it only goes up to 94. well even after 93 the scene was shit unless you went back to house.

Its got to be oldskool Hardcore tho, not like the new stuff at all realy its gone way down hill

Hardcore/Techno

Ya canna beat them distorted hard as fook beats

As mentioned in my into I didn't really go out raving to hardcore (except the 1 visit to Labrynth) so Jungle would be the obvious choice for those reasons, but seeing as hardcore was what started it all for me then that would be my answer, then again jungle is the majority of my tune collection so it has to be that...but a lot of my old mixtapes that I gathered throughout the years are hardcore so it's back on top, but wait...

Sod it, I'm not gonna choose and you can't make me so there!

(feel better for not disowning one of my music style loves)

hardcore is the best....i never like jungle/dnb

Really depends when you got into it all, if you were there early enough for the hardcore it will always beat Jungle!

I can't vote in the poll. Hardcore all the way mate... production-wise I like it more than the jungle variant. But hey, these are just my 2 cents, coming from a guy who lives in Belgium and who has never experienced a "real" uk hardcore rave.

Jungle is also pretty nice hehe.