Thread: HCB's

Now, I know very little about Hardcore Breaks, partly down to my ignorance and tunnel vision (Oldskool only).

I've just come across a couple of tunes that are as near as damned Oldskool sounding as they get.

Anyone know anything about this site?

Dragon Technicals Records

Puffa, RG, Gaffer, Cpt Greyskull etc will prob's know all about this but like I say I'm pretty clueless.

Hardcore Breaks is pretty decent but not enough good tracks are being released now.

Nu-Rave.com

Is the best site for all things hardcore breaks, rave breaks, j-tek, future jungle...

Originally Posted by Mortis

rave breaks, j-tek, future jungle...

nuffin good atall about those 2bob comercial wannabe genres!!!!!

rave breaks comercial hcb

j-tek is dubstep (with even less going on and no feeling or soal atall)

future jungle... dont make me laugh!!! again... its dub step .. fuk all to do with jungle apart from the odd sample here n there.


that site curly is a pretty good label.......... mostly germans on it i think.

all depends on wot your lookin for tbh.....

oldskool soundin hcb is all but dead now as its all moving towards the dubsteppy sounds as i call em..... nice if ya into heavy basslines and a slow bpm

ill talk to you in chat about it when i see ya......

you need to go back a few years for the stuff your after

REAL jungle dnb is on the return........


TRUST!!!!!!!

2012 is gonna see the re-rise of the REAL jungle scene in a BIG WAY

by producers and djs that started it, love it.. and have no need to name it summit crappy to clamime they invented it

mark my words

Originally Posted by Renegade Radio

nuffin good atall about those 2bob comercial wannabe genres!!!!!

rave breaks comercial hcb

j-tek is dubstep (with even less going on and no feeling or soal atall)

future jungle... dont make me laugh!!! again... its dub step .. fuk all to do with jungle apart from the odd sample here n there.


that site curly is a pretty good label.......... mostly germans on it i think.

all depends on wot your lookin for tbh.....

oldskool soundin hcb is all but dead now as its all moving towards the dubsteppy sounds as i call em..... nice if ya into heavy basslines and a slow bpm

ill talk to you in chat about it when i see ya......

you need to go back a few years for the stuff your after

Defo not into J-Tek or Rave breaks Puffa, but I do like what I hear on some HCB's. Really need educating though cos I'm been stuck in my oldskool bubble for far too long and ignoring basically everything else. With the digital era in full swing, there's gotta be good music out there!

I've just parted with a fiver to Paranoid recordings, big ups RG

Originally Posted by Curly

Defo not into J-Tek or Rave breaks Puffa, but I do like what I hear on some HCB's. Really need educating though cos I'm been stuck in my oldskool bubble for far too long and ignoring basically everything else. With the digital era in full swing, there's gotta be good music out there!

I've just parted with a fiver to Paranoid recordings, big ups RG

you want the paranoid recordings back cat... and the hardcore lives back cat.. plus. the free hardcore breaks sampler albums


mainly all your style (oldskool sounding) .... they are the best places to start.

then go back in time a bit for enormus mouse / mert wax / cut n run / knightforce again / repeat offender............. they wot your lookin for

Originally Posted by Renegade Radio

you want the paranoid recordings back cat... and the hardcore lives back cat.. plus. the free hardcore breaks sampler albums


mainly all your style (oldskool sounding) .... they are the best places to start.

then go back in time a bit for enormus mouse / mert wax / cut n run / knightforce again / repeat offender............. they wot your lookin for

That's exactly what I'm looking for Puffa....Oldskool with a new feel! None of that grinding dubsteppy sounds as you put it. Fook that.

I purchased the MP3 download off Paranoid recordings.....does that get emailed to you? Not sure how it works.

Originally Posted by Curly

I purchased the MP3 download off Paranoid recordings.....does that get emailed to you? Not sure how it works.

Just emailed you the DL link
(And no posting it up on here )

We try to put out a fair amount of 'old skool' sounding tunes on our cds. We've got about 5 new things on the go at the mo:

Vol 6 (more of the same sort of thing as the other volumes).
Vol 7 (again, just started getting a few bits sorted for this - will be along the same lines as the last lot).
Jungle Album - this will be out fairly shortly (A lot of ragga style mainly - 160bpm+)
Artist Vs Artist album.
Another DL Album (Bat Beat Vs Paranoid Vol 2).

These will be spread out over the following year - probably a couple of months apart so we have time to breathe

As for other stuff - think Puffa's mentioned most stuff.

The Free DL albums are here (as well as other stuff to grab):

http://www.hardcorelives.co.uk/board...6&action=dldir

Pete's HL label has a fair few cds on it - these generally speaking sound a bit newer with an old skool twist on the tracks.

Dragon Technicals had a few record releases - nice old skool style stuff.
Repeat Offender Records (still going) I think are up to their 14th or 15th vinyl release - rave / piano style old skool.
My youtube channel has loads of 'minimixes' showing off a lot of hcb tunes - some were unreleased, but a lot of them have come out in one form or another.
renegadegenius's Channel - YouTube

There used to be a lot of vinyl back in the early 2000s - must have around 50 hcb vinyl !
Most were very limited - between 150-300 copies. And I'd say most of the earlier ones would have sold out & some now can fetch as much as some rare old skool stuff (£30-50!).

Originally Posted by RenegadeGenius

Just emailed you the DL link
(And no posting it up on here )

We try to put out a fair amount of 'old skool' sounding tunes on our cds. We've got about 5 new things on the go at the mo:

Vol 6 (more of the same sort of thing as the other volumes).
Vol 7 (again, just started getting a few bits sorted for this - will be along the same lines as the last lot).
Jungle Album - this will be out fairly shortly (A lot of ragga style mainly - 160bpm+)
Artist Vs Artist album.
Another DL Album (Bat Beat Vs Paranoid Vol 2).

These will be spread out over the following year - probably a couple of months apart so we have time to breathe

As for other stuff - think Puffa's mentioned most stuff.

The Free DL albums are here (as well as other stuff to grab):

http://www.hardcorelives.co.uk/board...6&action=dldir

Pete's HL label has a fair few cds on it - these generally speaking sound a bit newer with an old skool twist on the tracks.

Dragon Technicals had a few record releases - nice old skool style stuff.
Repeat Offender Records (still going) I think are up to their 14th or 15th vinyl release - rave / piano style old skool.
My youtube channel has loads of 'minimixes' showing off a lot of hcb tunes - some were unreleased, but a lot of them have come out in one form or another.
renegadegenius's Channel - YouTube

There used to be a lot of vinyl back in the early 2000s - must have around 50 hcb vinyl !
Most were very limited - between 150-300 copies. And I'd say most of the earlier ones would have sold out & some now can fetch as much as some rare old skool stuff (£30-50!).

Fantastic RG! Thanks for the input mate. Really surprised at what the vinyl can fetch, saying that, I'm guessing it's classed as Oldskool Nuskool in a sense if it's nigh on 10/12 years old!

I will defo get on the Repeat Offender stuff as that sounds right up my street!

Also, thanks for the Email......I would never post a link up knowing that it's still for sale

trust. repeat offender is right up your street!!

salute danny and alex EVERY time!!!

Aslo RG.. i couldnt have put your post better!!

what i will say is most of the oldskool sounding hcb is past now.... just a few bits cummin out and they mainly on pr and hcl.

you missed the whole hcb scene curly -- that was soooo 2004-2007

as said. still bits cummin out..


people seem to be trying to make a split - 1993/94 style if ya get me by making ya choose a genre insted of doin wot dnb did and keep it all under 1 roof.... hence probs why dnb is STILL goin strong and every other genra has died a death


sall good.............. just dont tag it innit

you will find though most of the new stuff is newer sounds with an oldskool twist as RG said..... not realy what your asking for.... your over 5 years too late lolol

ill talk to ya soon though

Originally Posted by Renegade Radio

Aslo RG.. i couldnt have put your post better!!

what i will say is most of the oldskool sounding hcb is past now.... just a few bits cummin out and they mainly on pr and hcl.

you missed the whole hcb scene curly -- that was soooo 2004-2007

as said. still bits cummin out..


people seem to be trying to make a split - 1993/94 style if ya get me by making ya choose a genre insted of doin wot dnb did and keep it all under 1 roof.... hence probs why dnb is STILL goin strong and every other genra has died a death


sall good.............. just dont tag it innit

you will find though most of the new stuff is newer sounds with an oldskool twist as RG said..... not realy what your asking for.... your over 5 years too late lolol

ill talk to ya soon though

I'm Oldskool so 5 years old is new to me

It'll be like I've had the newest "Now That's What I call Music" tape

Originally Posted by Curly

Now, I know very little about Hardcore Breaks, partly down to my ignorance and tunnel vision (Oldskool only).

I've just come across a couple of tunes that are as near as damned Oldskool sounding as they get.

Anyone know anything about this site?

Dragon Technicals Records

Puffa, RG, Gaffer, Cpt Greyskull etc will prob's know all about this but like I say I'm pretty clueless.

Dragon Technicals Records is a german label which brought out a few hcbs records - 4 releases if my memory serves me right.

The site itself has been up for a few years and they had mixes to download mainly oldskool and they did go on online radio stations as special guests - one of the main players is Systec

Originally Posted by Curly

That's exactly what I'm looking for Puffa....Oldskool with a new feel! None of that grinding dubsteppy sounds as you put it. Fook that.

I purchased the MP3 download off Paranoid recordings.....does that get emailed to you? Not sure how it works.

I'd recommend checking out Basement Record's re-incarnation. I also rated Mulder and his CueBurn label.

check out Sonic Fortress too fella
lots of vinyl releases
and smack in the middle of old skool/nu skool!
Sonic Fortress | Facebook

Puffa made a good tune once... Despite being a shouty fat knacker!

Is the Cut & Run label classed as HCB or some other stupidly named genre I've never heard of?

http://www.discogs.com/label/Cut+%26+Run

Originally Posted by Thrash

Is the Cut & Run label classed as HCB or some other stupidly named genre I've never heard of?

http://www.discogs.com/label/Cut+%26+Run

I'd class that as Breaks or Rave Breakz.

Originally Posted by RenegadeGenius

I'd class that as Breaks or Rave Breakz.

You see, far too complicated for me!

It's like the latter part of 1993 all over again... I preferred the days when it was all just hardcore breaks...

One for you here Trish

Originally Posted by dodders

One for you here Trish

lol... Already got it Ken!

So basically, if a tune is a breaks remix of an oldskool tune then it's classed as 'rave breaks' whereas if it's made from scratch using old skool samples & noises etc then it's HCB?

If I'm honest, I think I prefer the rave breaks....

I do like the type of stuff JMT makes though, that lads got his finger on the pulse. Some of the stuff you chesneys on here have made is also quite good but I couldn't possibly say who....

Originally Posted by Thrash

lol... Already got it Ken!

So basically, if a tune is a breaks remix of an oldskool tune then it's classed as 'rave breaks' whereas if it's made from scratch using old skool samples & noises etc then it's HCB?

If I'm honest, I think I prefer the rave breaks....

I do like the type of stuff JMT makes though, that lads got his finger on the pulse. Some of the stuff you chesneys on here have made is also quite good but I couldn't possibly say who....

Rave breakz (imo) has shit beats made up of a few hits in a 'boom tish' style.
HCB mainly uses proper breakbeats - sometimes as is, sometimes chopped up.
Breaks is usually a bit slower (around the 130-140 mark) using mainly drum hits with maybe an underlying breakbeat, but using sounds that aren't really old skool sounding.

So in essence, HCB is generally speaking new old skool to mix up with your old tunes (or that was the original idea anyway).
The others are made to sound more modern / different.

/me slaps the livin shit out of RG


ITS ALL FUKIN BREAK BEAT HARDCORE!!!


IF IT MADE AFTER 1998... THEN IT HARDCORE BREAKS!!!


THERE IS FUKIN NO SUCJ THING AS NU-RAVE, RAVE BREAKS, FUTURE SHIT!!!!!

ITS HARDCORE FUKIN BREAKS!!!!!!

AND SIR STU CHAPMAN AGREES WITH ME!!!

[16:19] <+Stu> i cant stand that stupid genre name
[16:19] <+Stu> whats friggin future about it
[16:20] <@Long_Good_Puffa> im sure you are well aware that i cannot too
[16:20] <+Stu> it aint even as good as 1996 ffs lol
[16:20] <@Long_Good_Puffa> init though stu
[16:20] <@Long_Good_Puffa> and its funny cos its old men sayin its nu and future
[16:20] <@Long_Good_Puffa> hahahah
[16:21] <+Stu> unless they're counting the numerous dubstep wobble synths that are now playing with a break being "nu" of "future"
[16:21] <+Stu> which is absolutely ridiculous
[16:21] <@Long_Good_Puffa> fuk sake stu!!!
[16:21] <@Long_Good_Puffa> why the fuk aint you ever there when im ranting about this shit
[16:21] <@Long_Good_Puffa> your sayin all what i been sayin for ages
[16:21] <@Long_Good_Puffa> lol
[16:22] <+Stu> lmfao

THERE YA GO FROM THE MASTA


right nuff ranting........ im off back to wake up with MIKE SPEED AND RG SPEED - LONG GOOD FRIDAY DAY 4

Originally Posted by Renegade Radio

/me slaps the livin shit out of RG


ITS ALL FUKIN BREAK BEAT HARDCORE!!!

Oooooohhhhhhhh No it's Noooooot!!

You can't really compare this (Which is classed as Breaks) :

CUT AND RUN - AMEN - YouTube

To something like this (HCB) :

Simon Harris - Medley (Yell-O-Phase Messed It All Up!!) - YouTube

So don't give me that 'It's all the same' because as far as I'm concerned, it isn't

And don't get me started on that 'Future' stuff - I'll agree with you & Stu on that

What are they gonna call that in a few years?? Old Skool Nu-Future Gibble-Core?!

Originally Posted by RenegadeGenius

Oooooohhhhhhhh No it's Noooooot!!

You can't really compare this (Which is classed as Breaks) :

CUT AND RUN - AMEN - YouTube

To something like this (HCB) :

Simon Harris - Medley (Yell-O-Phase Messed It All Up!!) - YouTube

So don't give me that 'It's all the same' because as far as I'm concerned, it isn't

And don't get me started on that 'Future' stuff - I'll agree with you & Stu on that

What are they gonna call that in a few years?? Old Skool Nu-Future Gibble-Core?!

i can totaly and easy say they are the SAME!!!!!


the same way as i can say this...

http://www.discogs.com/Sonz-Of-A-Loo.../release/32993

and this..

http://www.discogs.com/Temple-Of-Lif...release/341468

ARE HARDCORE

end of man....

and we both know where the trem 'rave breaks' came from

my main point still stands and holds water...... ITS ALL HARDCORE BREAKS

BUT YOU ARE 100% CORRECT ON THAT 'SHIT BREAKS' AND 'BOOM TISH'