Thread: The history of "Amen Break"

YouTube - Video explains the world's most important 6-sec drum loop

I'm pretty well educated on the origins of the classic drum breaks, but for those that aren't this would be an nice informative little vid

we have done it before on here, classic break viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8082&hilit=Amen+Break

Originally Posted by oldskoolrules

we have done it before on here, classic break viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8082&hilit=Amen+Break

Which prick posted that OSR?

If thats the same video Im thinking about Im on the comments on that video arguing that its a bit ill informed, Jungle isn't based around the Amen break. Its used a lot, but the music isn't based around that particular loop...it might sound like it now, every tune seems to have the amen break beefing up the beats, but back in the day it wasn't.

Originally Posted by junglist76

If thats the same video Im thinking about Im on the comments on that video arguing that its a bit ill informed, Jungle isn't based around the Amen break. Its used a lot, but the music isn't based around that particular loop...it might sound like it now, every tune seems to have the amen break beefing up the beats, but back in the day it wasn't.

Agreed, and an interesting point to moot.

I also don't think it's fair to say that it's based around ragga influences - that ain't my bag at all.

If anything, it was a darker, more technological progression from hardcore with a cleaner, faster sound IMO

Originally Posted by swipezster

Agreed, and an interesting point to moot.

I also don't think it's fair to say that it's based around ragga influences - that ain't my bag at all.

If anything, it was a darker, more technological progression from hardcore with a cleaner, faster sound IMO

93 was a year of change, and looking back anything went, you had the amen driven dark stuff which kept up the tempo of the hardcore and took it faster, but the stuff that I loved was the "rolling" sound of reinforced/Goldie/Tek 9/4 hero - Tom n jerry where the amen was minimal and the beats in the foreground were soulpride, apache, helicopter, think etc...and when it was a full on amen track (like peshays gangsta) it had that "roll" programmed in so you were "rolling" along with it at half speed.

Theres nothing better to me than well cut up and well programmed apache beats rattling about around your head. It beats 90% of the lame amen tracks that came out around 1994/95 hands down

Originally Posted by junglist76

93 was a year of change, and looking back anything went, you had the amen driven dark stuff which kept up the tempo of the hardcore and took it faster, but the stuff that I loved was the "rolling" sound of reinforced/Goldie/Tek 9/4 hero - Tom n jerry where the amen was minimal and the beats in the foreground were soulpride, apache, helicopter, think etc...and when it was a full on amen track (like peshays gangsta) it had that "roll" programmed in so you were "rolling" along with it at half speed.

Theres nothing better to me than well cut up and well programmed apache beats rattling about around your head. It beats 90% of the lame amen tracks that came out around 1994/95 hands down

Interesting, horses for courses and all that; I like the mental mash-up amen of the mid-nineties purley because I admire the drum loop programming - maybe the wrong reason to like the genre, but credit where it's due, doing it was hard but sounded wicked on the ear.

I'll ask this of you junglist 76:

Find me a track with beats more complicated than DJ SS's "Rollidge" - the drum programming on that one is simply phenomenal.

I was going to ask Leroy when I met him how long it took him to do that track, but completely forgot.

Originally Posted by swipezster

Interesting, horses for courses and all that; I like the mental mash-up amen of the mid-nineties purley because I admire the drum loop programming - maybe the wrong reason to like the genre, but credit where it's due, doing it was hard but sounded wicked on the ear.

I'll ask this of you junglist 76:

Find me a track with beats more complicated than DJ SS's "Rollidge" - the drum programming on that one is simply phenomenal.

I was going to ask Leroy when I met him how long it took him to do that track, but completely forgot.

not indoors at the moment mate, but I'll have a look through my tunes when I get home and get back to you on that.

The drummer dies not to long ago. ALso there are different versions of the track which were album ep, etc releases all have slight variations of th ebreak.

I'd be interested in hearing these other versions, I know due to the mass ammount of sampling there's a lot of different sounding amens around but that's due to years of filters and being transferred through various equipment.. I think the breaks (4 clear samples at least, often used) from that Lyn Colins track "think about it" are underrated and not often mentioned, amen deserves the lime light though imo... also that addis posse track I hear layered on so much old rave, gives a kind of a boost in the low mids.

Looks interesting

Was reading all about this the other night on wiki its really interesting stuff have also seen this youtube vid would recomend having a look if ur new to the oldskool Hardcore scene... Lol that sound pretty funny "if ur new to the oldskool"

Originally Posted by swipezster

Which prick posted that OSR?

the link is dead now you puff !!!

Originally Posted by oldskoolrules

the link is dead now you puff !!!