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    Question Is BIG MAN a Bully or a Saint???

    Big debate going on about this at the mo... Calling for the big man to be locked up.

    Was big man in the right? Is it the conductors fault? Shud the big man be locked up?? Did the studant deserve it?

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    tbh mate i tihnk the gezza was right throw him off , if you dont buy a ticket then what do you expect BUT it could have been handled in another way , the train could have continued to the next stop where the the poilce would be waiting for him and they could have sorted it out
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    The guy was 100% right. The guy was riding on a train without a ticket and giving the conducter attitude and was swearing at him. The conductor is entitled to eject the male, but he was an old man and someone offered to help. The fair dodger could have left on his own accord, but refused and even tried to barge his way back in. I say fair play to them. He's not a bully, that chavvy kid couldn't be arsed to pay for a ticket like everyone else and like Bass said he could have got nicked at the next stop, but they used discretion and he got a free ride.
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    few little facts here....

    the chavvy kid had 2 1 way tickets in the wrong direction for that day.

    the chavvy kid was a diabetic that had a a cpl of beers (he was thrown off the train with everyone just assuming he was pissed off his head) and his insulin... and uni books... were left on the train.

    he didnt swear AT the conductor...... he swears yes... but not AT anyone.

    so as he says, did he pay for a return and end up getting 2 1 way (as many of us that have used the train have done) ?

    is he in the clouds a bit cos the beers have kiked his suger levels mental?

    why did the conductor hold the train up and argue for 10 mins instead of moving on.. as the traffic police could have been waiting at the next stop.

    tbh......

    deffo a bully imo and the conductor was a prik for making it get to that when the police cudda piked him up at the next stop.

    i wonder if those that are cussin the 'chav' would feel different if they knew the facts.. and the kid had gone into a coma and died on the platform???
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    I agree with DJ Bass Raver. I wouldn't call the big guy a bully he was not antagonizing the kid, I'd say he just got pissed of at being held up and wanted to get going on his way and did what most people wished they would do.

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    If he's diabetic & shouldn't be drinking, then why did he?
    If he's too stupid/drunk to buy the right tickets, then tough.
    Looks like his bag was 'ejected' from the train with him by another bloke (with a strip on his coat).

    At the end of the day, why should all the people that followed the rules & bought the correct tickets have to have grief because of some little twat.

    Good on the bloke for chucking him off.

    That's my view anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeGenius View Post
    If he's diabetic & shouldn't be drinking, then why did he?
    If he's too stupid/drunk to buy the right tickets, then tough.

    That's my view anyway.

    you can drink when ya diabetic.

    and have you ever tried to buy train tickets in scotland?? i have, while sober. hence my sympathy... its a fukin nightmare.

    imo... the conductor failed big time for holding up the train when the police could easy be at the next stop waiting for him and let them sort it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade Radio View Post
    you can drink when ya diabetic.

    and have you ever tried to buy train tickets in scotland?? i have, while sober. hence my sympathy... its a fukin nightmare.

    imo... the conductor failed big time for holding up the train when the police could easy be at the next stop waiting for him and let them sort it out.
    Buying train tickets is a bit of a pain full stop, but you can always get advice surely, even up in Scotland.

    As for the conductor, for all you know he may have rules to do as he did - if you've not worked on public transport, then it's difficult to say. They have some very strange rules for certain things (My dad used to work as a bus driver so I know some of the crap that goes on).
    Plus who's to say there were transport police at the other end? I rarely see any if I'm on the train, so it's more than likely he would have got away with it - which again isn't fair to all those 100s of other people who did buy the correct ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeGenius View Post
    Buying train tickets is a bit of a pain full stop, but you can always get advice surely, even up in Scotland.

    As for the conductor, for all you know he may have rules to do as he did - if you've not worked on public transport, then it's difficult to say. They have some very strange rules for certain things (My dad used to work as a bus driver so I know some of the crap that goes on).
    Plus who's to say there were transport police at the other end? I rarely see any if I'm on the train, so it's more than likely he would have got away with it - which again isn't fair to all those 100s of other people who did buy the correct ticket.

    depending on where he got the tickets from. and what time he got them.. there more than likely wernt any staff around.............. been there, done that.

    police at next station.......... the driver can call through for transport police to be waiting at next station.. again. been there, done that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade Radio View Post
    the driver can call through for transport police to be waiting at next station.. again. been there, done that.
    What if they're busy doing something else?

    Anyway, just my view - as far as I'm concerned he got what was deserved & the bloke who helped should be commended.

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    Looked like a bit of a bully to me.. Think the conductor could have handled it better and just phoned for the transport police to meet them and sort it out at the next stop. No need to hold up the whole train ffs.

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    Funny I saw this on the box today and wondered if Puffa would do a thread on it, nice one!

    There's a shed-load of these videos of incidents on public transport now, think I'll do my usual thang and bury my head in the sand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeGenius View Post
    What if they're busy doing something else?

    while he sat there for 10 mins not moving??


    if the kid had been kikin off on the train and abusing passengers. fair nuff innit....

    but hey ho.....

    @ swips.............

    your gonna bury your head in who??

    where that mincer icon???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade Radio View Post
    while he sat there for 10 mins not moving??


    if the kid had been kikin off on the train and abusing passengers. fair nuff innit....

    but hey ho.....

    @ swips.............

    your gonna bury your head in who??

    where that mincer icon???
    At the end of the day, the lad was in the wrong - there's no other 2 ways about it. No valid ticket - get off the train.
    He didn't get off.

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    Before the video became popular on the web, Mr Main appeared more amused by it - writing on Facebook on Sunday: "There's a video of me on youtube hahahahaha! Scotrail no ticket "

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    if i had been on that train i would have battered the fucking snot out of him.

    not for fare dodging, being rude or even holding everybody up, but for looking like that c*nt dappy from N-dubz

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    Quote Originally Posted by swipezster View Post
    There's a shed-load of these videos of incidents on public transport now
    The conspiracy theorist in me would think there is something in this.....I've been thinking about this for a couple of weeks now and they just keep on coming these videos

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    It's funny how your mind is easily swayed by the media.

    I read this story yesterday? and I was thinking "good on the bloke for getting the idiot off the train, it's a shame this doesn't happen more often"

    Now that I have seen the video, I've kind of seen it in a different light. Sure the guy was in the wrong, but he was hardly a fair dodger. What I don't like is his attitude of "I don't care what you say, I'm staying right here and there is nothing you or anyone else can do so get lost and leave me alone" He could have simply got off the train and purchased a new ticket. What if he didn't have any money I hear you ask? why wouldn't he have any money for a train ticket?

    As for the big bloke chucking him off, at first (thanks to the media) I was punching the air with delight, but seeing the video I far from wanted to do this simplistic act after witnessing good vs evil. If this bloke who didn't get off was some fair dodging skally, or drunken "Britain isn't Britain" brainless, Jeremy kyle watching, McDonalds eating tool, then I would still be punching the air. Instead it just seemed like a bloke sat quietly on a train while being surrounded by a pack of wolves moving in for the kill. That's the impression it gave me and has stayed with me.

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    Dunno mate, like I said at the ranting woman vid, I think this is just a trend at the moment.

    @ Puffs - S-A-N-D = sand

    I'd like to say in between my wife's thighs, but then I'd be lying to everyone, including myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by swipezster View Post
    Dunno mate, like I said at the ranting woman vid, I think this is just a trend at the moment.

    @ Puffs - S-A-N-D = sand

    I'd like to say in between my wife's thighs, but then I'd be lying to everyone, including myself
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    adly thats cos you are like the majority of the country........ ie spinless, uneducated, no voice. lets pretend nuffin is happening, i dont know so i dont care. fuk wit.

    swipz....... your a gutless mince fuk wit.

    prove me otherwise...................... PLEASE
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    Quote Originally Posted by China-Rising View Post
    What if he didn't have any money I hear you ask? why wouldn't he have any money for a train ticket?
    thats quite an ignorant or at least not very well thought out thing to say, for obvious reasons, including he might have actually been brassic? i left reading (the town) with the petrol light on and 8 quid in my pocket earlier this year. i just made it home but it was still a bad situation to be in as my phone was also dead. these things happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade Radio View Post
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    adly thats cos you are like the majority of the country........ ie spinless, uneducated, no voice. lets pretend nuffin is happening, i dont know so i dont care. fuk wit.

    swipz....... your a gutless mince fuk wit.

    prove me otherwise...................... PLEASE


    you have a lovely way of provoking a debate, puffy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj Euphoria View Post




    you have a lovely way of provoking a debate, puffy.
    he knows its just forum debate bizniz.

    or he shud do by now after all these years ffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    if not...... thats proof he loves black cock up his tight pink arse while beggin for cream in his mouth.

    FACT
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    i just spat my beer laughing at that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade Radio View Post

    if not...... thats proof he loves black cock up his tight pink arse while beggin for cream in his mouth.

    FACT
    How do you know his arse is tight?

    From my experience it wasn't!

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